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Cally Starforth's avatar

Hey, Eppy nice to hear from you, thanks. Its possible he was William Wallace and others have been mentioned, there are so many figures in myth that we will probably never know if they actually existed. Jesus Christ of Nazareth being one.

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The Blue Sky Maiden's avatar

At the time of alleged Jesus there was no such place as Nazareth.

When Nazareth did exist I think there is quote in Bible that when mention the person addressed says' Nazareth ! (& spits etc) what good has ever come from Nazareth!'

While there was no Nazareth there were ESSENES & that is the cult Jesus is the embodiment of, along with most resurrected (green man) avatars, most of which pre date his alleged existence.

It gets more convoluted as Merovingian secret history claims a Jesus with brother etc, but I would suggest these are all allegories & contrived appropriations or composite personalities of renown

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Cally Starforth's avatar

Yes I agree with you and 'alleged' is most definitely the word. And agree Essenes a real esoteric group with access to some original biblical texts now labeled 'apocrypha'

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THE ARTILECT's avatar

Thanks,Cally - some deep diving there! But we can always go deeper... to find bits of comet! I am a student of catastrophism, and have republished all the books - and made a first edition of the final manuscript (the acquiring of which involved reluctant Templars) - of Comyns Beaumont, the unacknowledged source for much of Velikovsky's work.

The beauty of CB, who was, incidentally, the uncle of Daphne Du Maurier, is that he does not shrink from questioning the locations of ancient myth and biblical stories (the accounts of the wars of the Jews in the case of the OT, and the blended stories of a Scottish rebel and a comet in the case of the NT). Whereas Velikovsky leaves them in the middle east, CB takes them back to their origins in what is now, post-cataclysm, the British Isles., but was formerly part of a large landmass (undersea remnants of which are documented), broken off at the time of the arrival of what he describes as a comet which arrived in the midst of a major war, almost three and a half thousand years ago.

Timescales and geography make eminent sense once the events are correctly placed. Ancient maps of Jerusalem, for example. do not tally with its alleged coordinates., but match exactly with the city of Edinburgh.

It requires a huge leap initially but once the whole picture is seen, it cannot be unseen, and world events ALL make sense - especially the proxy religious wars and the deep involvement of Britain and Rome.

For political skin-saving purposes, York-born Constantine sent his mother, a devout actual Christian with British roots (for the original religion was here) to what is now regarded as the Holy Land to 'discover' 'relics' - including a piece of the 'true cross' - in the places where churchmen sent out with her had conveniently placed them. All this for geopolitical purposes, as Constantine needed a capital in that region for the empire to continue, since things were not going too well over here. Something was required in order for it all to be held together and the power remain with the Romans (who had been one party in the ancient wars, who had left for warmer climes after the impact, and later returned to try to regain their power).

The Council of Nicaea - which took place a stone's throw from Brussels, incidentally - made a new religion to mask the old one, by combining the NEO-appeasing Roman religion (gods were meteor fragments, and the true story of Simon Bar Cochbar, a SCOTTISH rebel (depicted on Roman coins discovered in Scotland which had a thistle on the back) who was crucified on Corstorphine Hill in Edinburgh, not far from Arthur's Seat, the original Mount of Olives (the weather was warmer before the comet!).

Northumberland was the original Palestine, making the tree-felling more significant than ever. And yes, the sycamore has been a sacred tree with great healing properties and huge symbolic significance for ages. Because of this great significance it is often deliberately confused with other trees more suited to warmer climes to make the stories fit, albeit uncomfortably; it's quite amusing to see the contortions required to get so many British trees shoe-horned into the desert - the Oaks of Mamre/Oaks of Abraham, for example.

So the symbolism and significance of the recent tree-culling are much greater than anyone is currently daring to admit.They were building back better then, just like today.

Are they showing they don't care any more about that history? Because we're all useless eaters now and must have one health between us and worship the bots (still made of meteoric rock) and play video games to keep our vibrations in the toilet - where they can be collected and analysed for dissident spread?

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Cally Starforth's avatar

Fascinating yes , you right about the trees. I don't take any of official history to be 'official'. I question things, always have, always will. THe moon is another interesting one, how it got there, how the measurements seem to perfect and convenient. Graham Hancock and Randel Carlson claim to have found evidence, (melt glass) etc that a comet caused the world flood which they place roughly about 13,000 years ago. There is also a theory that the comet is 'the serpent'. Diabolos (greek devil) is 'the one thrown from Zeus'. Although Satan just means 'adversary'. But a comet could be seen as 'adversary too. As far as the the biblical stories are concerned and other texts, I see many layers in those. I don't take them literally, I look for the codes or astronomical/astrotheology behind it. There is also a great deal of mushroom symbolism in the biblical texts. John Allegro argues that Jesus Christ was a mushroom. I knew the Scythian/Egyptian and Picts (Black cat) origins of Scots and so doesn't take too much of a stretch of imagination to wonder whether Edinburgh could have been Jerusalem. My research seems to lead me to 'Jerusalem" or the 'new Jerusalem' being a place in time ie the 'land of milk and honey' which is Capricorn/Cancer , which some see as the Golden Age . Pictish Edinburgh was Dun Eideann and although Dun appears to be 'fort' it likely stems from 'fence' and that can mean anything fenced off so could be Garden Eideann (Eden?) . Arabic name for Jerusalem is Al Quds , from root 'qdd' , Aramaic 'qadad' (cut out) Syriac (qadd) tear away - so the ripping, tearing again 'Robin'. Jerusalem 'a flowing whole' , and Zion is Tzion in Hebrew it is spelt with Tsade letter which in ancient Hebrew is a kind of path/ journey or chase/hunt (or desire). 'For out of Zion shall the Torah come forth"(Isaiah 23) . Could well mean Age of Taurus which came after Leo (lion). Zion is City of David and David is Leo. All connected with the precession, of which the ancients had extensive knowledge. A journey of the soul, a place in time which of course could be reconstructed anywhere on Earth

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The Blue Sky Maiden's avatar

There is much mystery of the letter 'T'.

Like all these things there is more than one view.

In MAYAN teachings 'T' is placed under the nose of figures.

The reason is because it is like 'BO' (origin of BUD = Buddhism ) originally PHALLUS, HERME, etc.

So, in MAYA teachings 'T'= GENITAL BREATH.

In tantra this now makes 100% accurate interpretation, while profane will look in bemused disgust.

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The Blue Sky Maiden's avatar

That is lovely thing to do. & so very intriguing.

It may transpire soon that COMETS are found to be plasma interaction caused by rapid 'pre-formative Ether manifestations' & resultant impingement, & I will bet money on that being so after much study of such.

UK & USA both fit topology of BIBLE, as does Persia. This is how it was ubiquitous.

Bible is not a book of normal words, it has no vowels or sentence breaks.

It is book for initiates of GEMATRIA RATIOS & other cyphers, variable to instruction of reader.

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Cally Starforth's avatar

💯 yes

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The Fyrgen's avatar

Are you of the belief, then, that the British are 'the true Israelites', or Hebrews?

If so, I've never been able to comprehend how those who hold to this belief explain the pre-existing polytheistic cultures of Britain and Europe, nor the references in the Old Testament to them.

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Cally Starforth's avatar

No I don't believe that. I don't adhere to their being any 'true Israelite' as such. Hebrew means 'from the other side' (ie from other side of river), you could take that as the river Euphrates, , or you could take that as a river elsewhere or in the sky (the constellation Eridanus) which is the long winding 'river' leading down to the southern skies (the waters below).

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The Fyrgen's avatar

Thanks Cally. I did intend me question for SOS above you, but I'm glad of your response also.

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Andy.C's avatar

so surprised I have only just found your article !!!! I knew it, the day it happened just wasn't right .....I was also in croydon that day for work ... awfully co-incidental re the stabbing of Elianne at a bus stop outside Whitgift shopping centre on Wellesley Road in Croydon on 27 September at about 8.30am 12hrs prior ! ......I then got back late that evening to Northumberland and heard the news re the tree the following day. for some reason I thought they were linked and potentially ritual and that the day was significant.!!

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Cally Starforth's avatar

Interesting. I didn’t hear about Elliane , is it a feeling you get that it is linked or is there some more details on that I don’t know about?

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The Blue Sky Maiden's avatar

This is very wonderful & will take more time to digest.

I have to mention in spirit of honesty & fairness that Crowley was certainly not a Satanist.

Even using terms like Satanist is actually misapplication of CHRISTIAN sensibilities (obviously inverted) , while Christian sensibilities' as I am sure you know were derived from (the almost useless term of) PAGAN roots, places & practices.

The original Christians of Britain were primitive (in good sense!) Buddhist, from cult of BO/ BUD= Lingam/Herme/Phallus . In mutual, but opposite form to the NAGA or PITH/ Yoni /Vagina cults.

They are concurrent with both cults all over the world in early times.

What we see after modern Christianity is RETURN of migrated Northern people from Summer/IRAN etc, & the horror of displacement in the sciences of religion. For example reverence for Moon & SUN is now not in harmony due to different climates & influences of luminaries.

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Cally Starforth's avatar

Satan does not mean what the masses have been led to believe at all. It is not a figure with hooves , it is just a descriptor word meaning 'adversary'. It is any 'other'. Crowley's MagicK and Thelema is ultimately about Will. Satanism is self worship. Witchcraft is manipulation of nature, sorcery is manipulation of mind. Crowley revered the beast. The beast is self. Yes I agree moon and sun not in harmony now, moon is at major standstill. Christ is symbolsim. I do not believe in Christ the man as anything more than a symbol.

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The Blue Sky Maiden's avatar

Yes the BEAST = LOWER NATURE = Hephren = 666 in Greek/Hellene Gematria.

It is opposite Chakra to Taurus of throat chakra. So, become Scorpio for natural sciences.

Satan is adversary because Satan is TIME the Arena for all sowing & reaping & renewal processes. Self Worship is god Narcissus who Dali paint with great skill & humorous psychology. Satanist is often actually extreme Christian who admits to liking kinky fun. They rarely do any real harm, that can be confirmed, that is left for fanatical Christian hypocrites.

There is so much confusion & fear being aimed at poor old Satanists who spend most of their lives collecting patches for denim jackets & trying to find the best pressing on vinyl of early Motorhead LPs. & Iron Maiden or Slayer picture discs.

Christ is allegorical symbol & obviously external representation as the SUN, not manifest historical mutilated messiah in humanoid form, & to not spoil any complex topic I will be discussing that very soon.

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Nicholas S's avatar

Brilliant Cally, thanks.

I heard recently that the story of Robin Hood mirrors the story of William Wallace. But this reality rests upon a tapestry of stories. Stories told, retold and not yet told.

Eppy

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