I thought this was likely a miscarriage when I caught an interview with Lucy Letby's friend on the news. Intuition based on the friend's clear headed certainty and what I saw as a very unlikely scenario.
thanks Nicholas, yes very odd reporting on this case, two of the people strategic in her conviction are politically active (Ravi Jayaram and Dewi Evans) , something smells not quite right - there is a website called SCIENCE ON TRIAL which is a forum for people who want to help her appeal and a re-trial -
This comment/report is brilliant! Personally, I wish you had been part of the defence team. Hopefully, there there will be an opportunity at a retrial when you can take part and get Lucy Letby released from prison - NOT GUILTY.
I had an unconditional offer at a university to do BA Hons in Law many years ago, then they withdrew the offer on the recommendation of a shrink. They would be unlikely to get away with that today. Incidentally a few years later I applied to the same uni for a music degree, got another offer and then they repeated their behaviours by not letting me take the degree up. I considered taking them to court at that point for discrimination but the Equality and Human Rights Commission told me they are allowed to discriminate on health and safety grounds. I approached a solicitor and got similar story, but I should have pursued it. I don't think they would get away with it today. THe way I look at it is its their loss. Here is a song I recorded at the time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43K2kxLVNdw I remember taking my guitar and playing that song loudly outside some champagne degree ceremony they were having and they got security to steal my guitar!
Great article. Thanks for working through so many issues and making them lay accessible.
One thing that might throw a few readers is the depth/volume of the symbology upfront, but I only say that with the lowest common denominator in mind and those who would use this as a means to discard your great work.
Yeh I know what you mean. But I do see this as part of the bigger picture (as I think you did too in your very well researched article, and the article is aimed at open minded people, who are aware of the current agenda, not purely at those fighting to get justice for Lucy.
Sad that we are living in times of such perplexity and chaos. When decent loving people are constantly being attacked.
I see those consultants as cowardly bullies.....
It's absolutely shocking how they treated LL. She was no doubt was one of the finest nurses the NHS could have, even Dr Jayrama acknowledged her good management. Maybe she showed them..
Yes it is sinister how low our courts have stooped, and some of our medical professionals. I agree, they are lowlife bullies. I think you are right, she probably was a very good nurse, perhaps that was the problem, she was so conscientious that she put the babies first which meant pointing out staff errors including those of consultants. The culture in the NHS is cover up when something goes wrong. I bet she wasn't willing to do that, and that was the real problem. Just heard she is appealing. I hope the lawyers use all they have got this time.
On getting rid of juries....I went to a book signing by Wendy Joseph QC 2022 or 23 and she spoke about the pressure that was imposed on Judges and courts during covid to get rid of juries. She explained that juries can give a verdict based on what is currently seen to be correct by the people and so can change the law (not sure I explained that very well) and that she was supportive of having them but I can imagine that it would be easy to sway people to get rid.
Returning power to the people in many areas of our lives is critical, otherwise the future is looking very gloomy indeed.
Yeh I remember the way they used covid as an excuse to get juries out the way, and yes juries do set precedents with their decisions and this is how the body of common law has built up. There is a disturbing precedent due to the judge at the Letby trial as he told the jury that they didn't need to know exactly how Lucy had done these so called murders, this is a first and could be used in future cases to dispense with fair trials ....
How fitting. Hummingbirds look cute but most of them are aggressive birds. If you have a bird feeder and a hummingbird feeder in your yard/garden, you need to set them meters apart from one another.
And: Operation Hummingbird, also known as the Night of the Long Knives or the Röhm Purge, was a political purge in Nazi Germany that took place from June 30 to July 2, 1934.
No one at Chester PD took a few moments to see if the name had been used already ?
Very interesting. Got it from your comment on my Lucyletby Telegram. The person most likely to get Lucy out is Richard Gill. gill1109.com. He's played a big part in doing that with two other Nurses. As far as convincing people of all the Occult stuff goes, there's no chance. Convincing folk that she's innocent is enough of a challenge! Nobody will even recognise that Darwinism is Dud, even though the science around that is so simple, and Charlie himself admitted that all the Missing Links were . . .err . . .missing. However, it gives people the chance to believe in a Universe made only of matter and energy, and devoid of anything else.
Thanks Keith. I agree re Richard Giĺl , he got Lucia de Berk out . As for the occult 'hummingbird' refs, my blog is for people who are open to that stuff and look deeper into things and those are often the kind of people who spot the anomalies in the kind of media rhetoric in the Letby case (ie peeps who know we are lied to on a mass scale by gvt/media/corps _ my articles are not aimed at the majority coz I would have to dumb my writing down too much. If it makes anybody question the Letby verdict then that's a bonus. As for Darwin I agree with you just a theory with as many holes as a piece of Swiss cheese !
Richard Gill "did not get Lucia de Berk out". He was instrumental in securing a re-trial for her. When the evidence was re-evaluated it turned out mistakes had been made by the Dutch PD and the crime-investigators. I add this to your remark because Dr. Gill has been criticized for getting a guilty Ms. De Berk out on statistical Bayesian (!) mumbo-jumbo. And that is not what happened.
Currently Dr. Gill is one of those working hard to get Lucy Letby a re-trial. He also played an important role in the exoneration of the Italian nurse Daniela Poggiali.
I know. I explained why I added the response. I see Dr. Gill from time to time accused of using statistics to free killer nurses. I always comment that this is not true, wherever I read it or something that could be construed as such. I have the same "bent" when it comes to Marie Antoinette's "let them eat cake" remark. She did not say that ! I will repeat that over and over.
yes it happens all the time with people attributed in ways which can be misleading .... another one is Klaus Schwab 'you will own nothing and you will be happy' - not quite his words, but pretty sure that is what he would like !!
What happened there? I remember when the murders originally happened and he claimed his sister shot her own kids and his parents but at the time I thought he was being dishonest because of what he said about his father ringing him in the middle of a shooting and asking him to come over because 'your sister is going mad with a gun'. It ddidn't sound believable because if someone way shooting people in a house with children you would be trying to protect the children and save yourselves not wasting your time ringing your son. I think his dad also had some kind of military background so he would more likely call the police . . HOwever as it was his daughter, maybe not. I don't know. People close to Bamber think he is guilty including his own girlfriend at the time. So why do people believe he is innocent and what did the police cover up and who do you think did it?
Yes you make some interesting observations. I think the 8th baby dropped (from memory) may have been because there was some complications in pregnancy which made it unlikely to survive anyhow and/or was moved to another unit and therefore would have been an outlier thereby casting doubt on Lucy being responsible for the deaths. (There were babies going on the unit at some point who should have been intensive care - that was documented in the RCPCH report). However I am just going from memory now so cannot be sure. The anonymity of the doctor she was supposed to be having an affair with is ridiculous. There is no way that somebody who is giving evidence against a person who could get a life sentence should be allowed to be undercover. It can't be that his wife would find out because the case is so high profile that she is bound to have worked out it is him by a series of deductions. However doctors are given all these qualified privileges under the law. On Dewi Evans , not sure where I got the info retired neonatoligst as oppose to paediatrician but if that is the case, then thanks for pointing that out. I haven't see any actual evidence that murder was suspected back in 2015, just claims by consultants who by the demeanour , I would not trust. I have analysed the videos of Ravi on ITV and the signs of bullshit are blatant for anybody who picks up on that kind of stuff. Personally I don't think anybody seriously believed in that hospital that Lucy was murdering babies. THe consultants are simply covering up for their own possible negligence, along with the locums. I would like to know why Ravi has left his job at COCH. Did he resign, or was he pushed? He clearly is the ringleader in blaming Lucy with Brearly strongly supporting that. But do I believe they genuinely think Lucy is a demon serial killer? No. In fact when Brearly approach Rees in 2015 she has said that he did not mention anything about suspecting Lucy of murder. Because if he had done, she of course would have moved Lucy off the unit straight away. So I don't think that even if we believe that the consultants genuinely suspected Lucy of murder, that we can be sure it was before 2018. I agree there needs to be accountability for those who have been sick enough and ruthless enough to put their careers above the actual life and freedom of this innocent young woman.
I am not sure what interview of Brearey you are talking about. If you look at my other post LIES LIES AND VIDEOTAPE in which he is interviewed by Channel Four, very clearly he gives 2016 as the point he started to suspect Letby of deliberately harming the babies. And even then he is unclear whether it was towards the end of 2016 or in June 2016. Karen Rees is therefore more believable as to having the 'more accurate memory". We know that Jayaram and Brearey wanted Lucy off the unit (but we don't know why). What we do know is that she was a pain for them because she was pointing out errors by locums/consultants. That is the more likely reason they wanted her off the ward. However management weren't listening . When that didn't work it seems the claimed concerns she was actually murdering babies arose.
Awesome, this article should be front page news on every British news site.
Thanks Hayley, I only wish!!!
Briiant research and analysis, Cally.
I thought this was likely a miscarriage when I caught an interview with Lucy Letby's friend on the news. Intuition based on the friend's clear headed certainty and what I saw as a very unlikely scenario.
thanks Nicholas, yes very odd reporting on this case, two of the people strategic in her conviction are politically active (Ravi Jayaram and Dewi Evans) , something smells not quite right - there is a website called SCIENCE ON TRIAL which is a forum for people who want to help her appeal and a re-trial -
The website Science on Trial does no longer exist. Neither do the podcasts of the same name. If I am correct SoT was the brainchild of Sarrita Adams.
A good analysis is given here: https://www.reddit.com/r/statistics/comments/1dk1070/d_statistics_behind_the_conviction_of_britains/?chainedPosts=t3_1e00fey
And very insightful, remarks by a US NICU nurse. https://www.reddit.com/r/scienceLucyLetby/comments/1f1qxfd/inside_the_brain_of_a_nicu_nurse_part_1_nicu_info/
yes, i wrote ths article back in Sept 2023 so lots has happened since. Yes Sarrita Adams was behind S.O.T.
This comment/report is brilliant! Personally, I wish you had been part of the defence team. Hopefully, there there will be an opportunity at a retrial when you can take part and get Lucy Letby released from prison - NOT GUILTY.
I had an unconditional offer at a university to do BA Hons in Law many years ago, then they withdrew the offer on the recommendation of a shrink. They would be unlikely to get away with that today. Incidentally a few years later I applied to the same uni for a music degree, got another offer and then they repeated their behaviours by not letting me take the degree up. I considered taking them to court at that point for discrimination but the Equality and Human Rights Commission told me they are allowed to discriminate on health and safety grounds. I approached a solicitor and got similar story, but I should have pursued it. I don't think they would get away with it today. THe way I look at it is its their loss. Here is a song I recorded at the time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43K2kxLVNdw I remember taking my guitar and playing that song loudly outside some champagne degree ceremony they were having and they got security to steal my guitar!
Great article. Thanks for working through so many issues and making them lay accessible.
One thing that might throw a few readers is the depth/volume of the symbology upfront, but I only say that with the lowest common denominator in mind and those who would use this as a means to discard your great work.
Yeh I know what you mean. But I do see this as part of the bigger picture (as I think you did too in your very well researched article, and the article is aimed at open minded people, who are aware of the current agenda, not purely at those fighting to get justice for Lucy.
Absolutely amazing information, thank you.
Sad that we are living in times of such perplexity and chaos. When decent loving people are constantly being attacked.
I see those consultants as cowardly bullies.....
It's absolutely shocking how they treated LL. She was no doubt was one of the finest nurses the NHS could have, even Dr Jayrama acknowledged her good management. Maybe she showed them..
Yes it is sinister how low our courts have stooped, and some of our medical professionals. I agree, they are lowlife bullies. I think you are right, she probably was a very good nurse, perhaps that was the problem, she was so conscientious that she put the babies first which meant pointing out staff errors including those of consultants. The culture in the NHS is cover up when something goes wrong. I bet she wasn't willing to do that, and that was the real problem. Just heard she is appealing. I hope the lawyers use all they have got this time.
I think it was the night of the long knives, not the knight! But: great piece, Cally!
Yeh you right, a typo, I have corrected . Thanks for reading and I've put a link to your website below now
Great article thank you.
On getting rid of juries....I went to a book signing by Wendy Joseph QC 2022 or 23 and she spoke about the pressure that was imposed on Judges and courts during covid to get rid of juries. She explained that juries can give a verdict based on what is currently seen to be correct by the people and so can change the law (not sure I explained that very well) and that she was supportive of having them but I can imagine that it would be easy to sway people to get rid.
Returning power to the people in many areas of our lives is critical, otherwise the future is looking very gloomy indeed.
Yeh I remember the way they used covid as an excuse to get juries out the way, and yes juries do set precedents with their decisions and this is how the body of common law has built up. There is a disturbing precedent due to the judge at the Letby trial as he told the jury that they didn't need to know exactly how Lucy had done these so called murders, this is a first and could be used in future cases to dispense with fair trials ....
How fitting. Hummingbirds look cute but most of them are aggressive birds. If you have a bird feeder and a hummingbird feeder in your yard/garden, you need to set them meters apart from one another.
And: Operation Hummingbird, also known as the Night of the Long Knives or the Röhm Purge, was a political purge in Nazi Germany that took place from June 30 to July 2, 1934.
No one at Chester PD took a few moments to see if the name had been used already ?
All interested in Lucy Letby and what happened to her, please read the extensive analyses by an Irish doctor:
https://jameganx.notepin.co
Hi Cally,
Very interesting. Got it from your comment on my Lucyletby Telegram. The person most likely to get Lucy out is Richard Gill. gill1109.com. He's played a big part in doing that with two other Nurses. As far as convincing people of all the Occult stuff goes, there's no chance. Convincing folk that she's innocent is enough of a challenge! Nobody will even recognise that Darwinism is Dud, even though the science around that is so simple, and Charlie himself admitted that all the Missing Links were . . .err . . .missing. However, it gives people the chance to believe in a Universe made only of matter and energy, and devoid of anything else.
Thanks Keith. I agree re Richard Giĺl , he got Lucia de Berk out . As for the occult 'hummingbird' refs, my blog is for people who are open to that stuff and look deeper into things and those are often the kind of people who spot the anomalies in the kind of media rhetoric in the Letby case (ie peeps who know we are lied to on a mass scale by gvt/media/corps _ my articles are not aimed at the majority coz I would have to dumb my writing down too much. If it makes anybody question the Letby verdict then that's a bonus. As for Darwin I agree with you just a theory with as many holes as a piece of Swiss cheese !
Hi,
I totally take your point. I'm doing things the other way. I don't mention spiritual matters or bring up the Covid Scam, etc. Just stick with Lucy.
Best regards,
Keith
Richard Gill "did not get Lucia de Berk out". He was instrumental in securing a re-trial for her. When the evidence was re-evaluated it turned out mistakes had been made by the Dutch PD and the crime-investigators. I add this to your remark because Dr. Gill has been criticized for getting a guilty Ms. De Berk out on statistical Bayesian (!) mumbo-jumbo. And that is not what happened.
Currently Dr. Gill is one of those working hard to get Lucy Letby a re-trial. He also played an important role in the exoneration of the Italian nurse Daniela Poggiali.
it's a figurative expression in English , not literal , ie he played big part ..
I know. I explained why I added the response. I see Dr. Gill from time to time accused of using statistics to free killer nurses. I always comment that this is not true, wherever I read it or something that could be construed as such. I have the same "bent" when it comes to Marie Antoinette's "let them eat cake" remark. She did not say that ! I will repeat that over and over.
yes it happens all the time with people attributed in ways which can be misleading .... another one is Klaus Schwab 'you will own nothing and you will be happy' - not quite his words, but pretty sure that is what he would like !!
The whole substack is about the case - there are various stories with interviews with Bamber as well. - https://thedocmaker.substack.com/
Look at the Jeremy Bamber case. 39 years in prison. Completely innocent. Police cover up.
What happened there? I remember when the murders originally happened and he claimed his sister shot her own kids and his parents but at the time I thought he was being dishonest because of what he said about his father ringing him in the middle of a shooting and asking him to come over because 'your sister is going mad with a gun'. It ddidn't sound believable because if someone way shooting people in a house with children you would be trying to protect the children and save yourselves not wasting your time ringing your son. I think his dad also had some kind of military background so he would more likely call the police . . HOwever as it was his daughter, maybe not. I don't know. People close to Bamber think he is guilty including his own girlfriend at the time. So why do people believe he is innocent and what did the police cover up and who do you think did it?
Read my substack.. it’s all in there…
it's paywalled, if you have one that's free let me know and will read
The whole substack is devoted to the case. https://open.substack.com/pub/thedocmaker . This is a good start: https://thedocmaker.substack.com/p/93-problems
cheers
Yes you make some interesting observations. I think the 8th baby dropped (from memory) may have been because there was some complications in pregnancy which made it unlikely to survive anyhow and/or was moved to another unit and therefore would have been an outlier thereby casting doubt on Lucy being responsible for the deaths. (There were babies going on the unit at some point who should have been intensive care - that was documented in the RCPCH report). However I am just going from memory now so cannot be sure. The anonymity of the doctor she was supposed to be having an affair with is ridiculous. There is no way that somebody who is giving evidence against a person who could get a life sentence should be allowed to be undercover. It can't be that his wife would find out because the case is so high profile that she is bound to have worked out it is him by a series of deductions. However doctors are given all these qualified privileges under the law. On Dewi Evans , not sure where I got the info retired neonatoligst as oppose to paediatrician but if that is the case, then thanks for pointing that out. I haven't see any actual evidence that murder was suspected back in 2015, just claims by consultants who by the demeanour , I would not trust. I have analysed the videos of Ravi on ITV and the signs of bullshit are blatant for anybody who picks up on that kind of stuff. Personally I don't think anybody seriously believed in that hospital that Lucy was murdering babies. THe consultants are simply covering up for their own possible negligence, along with the locums. I would like to know why Ravi has left his job at COCH. Did he resign, or was he pushed? He clearly is the ringleader in blaming Lucy with Brearly strongly supporting that. But do I believe they genuinely think Lucy is a demon serial killer? No. In fact when Brearly approach Rees in 2015 she has said that he did not mention anything about suspecting Lucy of murder. Because if he had done, she of course would have moved Lucy off the unit straight away. So I don't think that even if we believe that the consultants genuinely suspected Lucy of murder, that we can be sure it was before 2018. I agree there needs to be accountability for those who have been sick enough and ruthless enough to put their careers above the actual life and freedom of this innocent young woman.
I am not sure what interview of Brearey you are talking about. If you look at my other post LIES LIES AND VIDEOTAPE in which he is interviewed by Channel Four, very clearly he gives 2016 as the point he started to suspect Letby of deliberately harming the babies. And even then he is unclear whether it was towards the end of 2016 or in June 2016. Karen Rees is therefore more believable as to having the 'more accurate memory". We know that Jayaram and Brearey wanted Lucy off the unit (but we don't know why). What we do know is that she was a pain for them because she was pointing out errors by locums/consultants. That is the more likely reason they wanted her off the ward. However management weren't listening . When that didn't work it seems the claimed concerns she was actually murdering babies arose.